tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post2750740014649182108..comments2024-01-29T20:11:34.297+00:00Comments on If You Tickle Us...: Bridge over Troubled WatersIfYouTickleUshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02269642544675508665noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post-13713627125322647582016-01-21T23:35:53.320+00:002016-01-21T23:35:53.320+00:00The current head of OFSTED has a fanatical cast ir...The current head of OFSTED has a fanatical cast iron emunah worthy of any Stamford Hill vaad. Yes, children are not the private property of their parents. They should be given a proper education, and kept safe from all forms of abuse, and clearly there is a problem if children join terrorist groups.<br /><br />But to state that the "Shulchan Oruch not compatible with 2010 Equalities Act" is spoiling for a fight. What have the Jews ever done to the gay community to deserve this? <br /><br />They might say with more accuracy that from their intolerant point of view, Leviticus, and the indeed the entire concept of faith in anything other than the pre-eminence of human rights barristers, and centuries of faith, is not compatible with a zealous enforcement of a zeitgest barely 5 years old. That'll be £750 an hour please. And 10p for the photocopying.<br /><br />We need to strip back human rights to its origins as a response to the genocides of the past few hundred years. We have on the one hand untold heaps of human corpses, machine-gunned into pits in the silent forests of Eastern Europe. we have on the other hand a complaint about non-compliant paperwork. It's a degradation and a dilution of the very concept of human rights.<br /><br />So while I,and I suspect almost all other religiously minded Jews, would never dream of harassing, or discriminating against a gay individual because of their sexual orientation we would never dream of disrespecting the shulchan oruch either. If zealots like these make us chose, some of us will chose to go along with the tide, but most of us - as we have done so many times in the past - will stick with our birthright.The Hatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post-89790643746602288112016-01-18T13:20:54.702+00:002016-01-18T13:20:54.702+00:00Without a doubt. Of course it is (Your Write Lines...Without a doubt. Of course it is (Your Write Lines)a 'sanctioned' publication, ergo those who read it are drip fed the most minuscule of details with regard to the outside world. There is a growing number of youngsters however who read blogs such as this, but of course must keep that a secret from their peers. The chedorim and yeshivos don't take too kindly to 'heretical' works criticising failings of the community at large. But that doesn't mean that the status quo should remain, and that blogs that are at the literacy level of an eight year old should be our only go to. I've been following this blog for a good few years now, and whilst I don't necessarily agree with all the various points made over the years, for the most part I've found it refreshing and informative, without the usual propaganda one may find elsewhere.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15353940025952357703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post-90463886535408534052016-01-16T19:30:01.403+00:002016-01-16T19:30:01.403+00:00BB
Of course, I was also raised in Stamford Hill a...BB<br />Of course, I was also raised in Stamford Hill and I have heard of McCarthy and Salem and also know what invertebrate means but you and I are a tiny minority.<br />You yourself confirm what I say by both the style and the substance of You Write lines.<br />Same goes for published letters in JT and Hamodia.<br />I am willing to bet that at least 10 times as many people in SH read You Write lines as follow this or any other blog. stamford hillernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post-71294117944373670732016-01-15T14:04:17.630+00:002016-01-15T14:04:17.630+00:00Any inside perspective on today's new of closi...Any inside perspective on today's new of closing down Tashbar?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post-25330517556330348752016-01-15T10:44:11.071+00:002016-01-15T10:44:11.071+00:00Satamford, not everyone in Stamford Hill was raise...Satamford, not everyone in Stamford Hill was raised in blissful ignorance, and I for one find it refreshing to be able to read a blog that has a modicum of articulation and a grasp of historical events outside of pubs being converted into shtieblech. Makes a considerable difference from Your Write Lines, I assure you.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15353940025952357703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post-54494990134447058102016-01-06T04:22:16.542+00:002016-01-06T04:22:16.542+00:00See this; http://www.nospank.net/sexdngrs.htm
I ho...See this; http://www.nospank.net/sexdngrs.htm<br />I hope you are being sarcastic in your suggestion that spanking is OK.<br />About 4 decades ago, there was a Rebbe in a SH School, who not only gave grand slams with a cigarette in his other hand. <br />If a kid was wearing tight trousers (like most did at the time) & had (juicy) nice behind. The kid was a candidate to stand next to the Rebbe with cigarette in his left hand the kids behind would be spanked with his right hand, while reading the gemorah. <br />When the cigarette was finished, and the kid was crying too much to continue saying anymore, the Rebbe would say it is a free country you are allowed to cry, & grab the kid, by the scruff of his trouser using his left hand & place him in OTK position, & continue spanking with his right hand, as the lesson would go on, and the rest of the kids watching in awe.<br />Although most kids didn't dare look out to see what was happening, at one point the spanking would go visious, & the Rebbe's face would change color, thinking back in time, after discussing it with others, at that point the Rebbe was violating his contract to keep Tvilas Ezra.<br />Many from that time suffer what is mentioned in above link, That Rebbe walks freely.Over the pondnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post-47402300913067743082016-01-02T22:04:18.028+00:002016-01-02T22:04:18.028+00:00Dear Ruby
What do you mean "to do teshuvoh .....Dear Ruby<br />What do you mean "to do teshuvoh ... To repent"<br />No one has ever admitted to any wrongdoing? Everything done was acceptable and lesheim Hashem... Halevai there was a letter of apology and recognition of misbehaviour<br />Can you please explain yourself?Chezkelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post-89839532632916452642016-01-02T19:25:50.670+00:002016-01-02T19:25:50.670+00:00Reuven it's Sad that you have such an attitude...Reuven it's Sad that you have such an attitude even as what you say about reb moishe or even reb chaim that they did wrong does it mean FOR EVER you will be against them haven't they had days to do tsuhvoh don't we in our religion have ellul rosh hashono yom kippur to repent WE WOULD LIKE HASHEM TO DEAL WITH US AS WE DEAL WITH FELLOW JEWS yes our ruv reb moishe was supporting reb chaim yes he did things I did not agree but since the petiroh of his father reb chuna zatsal and taken over he has been very helpful to us his balabatim and our shul has lost prominent members and Alex strom has been very sick we have through very hard times and our ruv reb moishe has taken us through these hard times in ruchinois and gashmios So reb moishe is is biggest Talmud chochom of all his brothers sold come a dayan or motzrubynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post-63918357539919839912016-01-01T09:08:32.785+00:002016-01-01T09:08:32.785+00:00Ruby - what does that have to do with anything? A ...Ruby - what does that have to do with anything? A leopard doesn't change his spots. It's bad enough that a man who has been responsible for so much dissent in out community with the eruv parsha, and acted so outrageously after his brother was outed, is a shul rov, never mind having an official Union title. Reuvennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post-77256088515858374232016-01-01T01:46:31.689+00:002016-01-01T01:46:31.689+00:00Strange that the union don't appoint the ruv o...Strange that the union don't appoint the ruv of bais shmuel horav moishe halpern as a dayan or at least a motz he has got about 95% of his shul behind him and fitted like a hand in a glove into the shul as ruv since taking over he has kept out of controversy rubynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post-20548552500011901902015-12-31T18:01:04.763+00:002015-12-31T18:01:04.763+00:00What does coming on the UOHC's side mean? Taki...What does coming on the UOHC's side mean? Taking the side of the Tzedoikim against Chazal in being "einoh modeh be'eiruv? Yitzchoknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post-7104345180359678842015-12-31T16:48:16.943+00:002015-12-31T16:48:16.943+00:00How can you say that? The UOHC are looking to offe...How can you say that? The UOHC are looking to offer the new HA Rov a seat on the Vaad Kashrus/Dayan if he comes on our side. So is the Reid here on the Hill.Yankienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post-62897026628851316402015-12-30T13:07:06.934+00:002015-12-30T13:07:06.934+00:00HAdass34yr – I can’t claim to know what the “vast ...HAdass34yr – I can’t claim to know what the “vast majority of Charedi NWL” wants, but I have yet to see much real evidence of efforts to put any desire for independence into practice. I have no doubt that your new rov has a clearer view of the Union’s deleterious impact than most, but I question whether the younger generation in particular has any real desire to set up a new framework.<br /> <br />On the less right-wing side, those who daven in shuls such as Ohr Chodosh have already cast their lot outside of the Union’s reach. And conversely, I see little to suggest that the members of Ohel Moshe, subservient bunch that they are, will ever do much to challenge their rov’s obeisance before his paymasters.<br /> <br />Add in the fact that relations between NWL’s charedi rabbonim are a picture of petty divisiveness, and the prospect of herding this particular bunch of bearded cats into a unified group seems distant at best. I don’t doubt that the rather dog-eared status quo will continue to fray at the edges, such as via increased public eruv usage, but, at this stage at least, I don’t see a catalyst for your hoped-for breaking of ties with N16.Dovidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post-27335704276754542532015-12-30T12:13:57.883+00:002015-12-30T12:13:57.883+00:00Peculiar Hat.
It most certainly is malice and self...Peculiar Hat.<br />It most certainly is malice and self-aggrandisement. Just not much forethought.<br />Also very few have managed to escape the disadvantages imposed on them by the "derech". The main culture here is entirely state welfare and chessed dependant. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post-57835958753580276402015-12-30T10:33:53.178+00:002015-12-30T10:33:53.178+00:00Dovid - Fair point. However the fact that Dayan Po...Dovid - Fair point. However the fact that Dayan Posen now competent is neither here nor there. He would have made a competent Rabbi at HA. The traffic warden is also competent. He can be competent outside of the Union. He is utterly beside the point and he is not a community Rabbi. Nobody wants a NWL community Rabbi moving closer to the Union Rabbis in SH. And yes the vast majority of charedi NWL want an independent kehilla with local NWL financing, local NWL kashrus and with no connection to the utter incompetence at The Satmar run Union and its Rabbinate. Our new HA rabbi understands this very clearly.HAdass34yrnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post-18200914589884993272015-12-30T10:26:38.841+00:002015-12-30T10:26:38.841+00:00Very well written and entertaining.
This sarge le...Very well written and entertaining.<br /><br />This sarge leads me to a couple of questions that I hope someone could enlighten me,<br /><br />1) why is it the weaker (financially) become the korben there were others from grater families involved in the McDonald's gate affair ?<br /><br />2) are we to believe that eating chazir treif is forgivable, but reporting someone that sexually abuses children, yidisher neshomahs to a point of mesiras Nefesh, is not forgivable ?<br /><br />Have the charaidisher world come up with a third testament, is this the way HKBH is happy with<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post-35288474775050361702015-12-30T00:04:56.137+00:002015-12-30T00:04:56.137+00:00Although there is no unified entity by the name of...Although there is no unified entity by the name of "Golders Green", from where I sit, I don't see that people here "want nothing to do with the UOHC". Most have little affection for the Stamford Hill, but don't have enough of a problem with the status quo to "demand" independence. <br /><br />To be honest, for the average Golders Greener, davening in a UOHC shul means little more than not using the eruv in public. Few people care which freezer in the cost shop others buy their chickens from; eating at least milchigs in restaurants under LBD supervision is hardly controversial and if you'd like to have your din torah heard by (among others) the perfectly competent R. Yehoshua Posen, then what's wrong with that? <br /><br />There's no doubt that those at the top of the UOHC are either gormless, evil or both and CH's ongoing presence is a festering sore, but neither have much tangible day to day impact for most people. <br />Dovidnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post-48981477506489060092015-12-29T23:23:49.554+00:002015-12-29T23:23:49.554+00:00It's certainly unfair to simultaneously accuse...It's certainly unfair to simultaneously accuse the Rabbinate of senile incompetence and a diabolical ingenuity in erecting barriers to leaving the community. Such barriers certainly exist, but to me they simply don't bear the hallmark of malice aforethought.<br /><br />Boruch Hashem, I never grew up in that environment and had the benefit of a good education - so I suppose it is rather unfair of me to denigrate the efforts of those who have had to deal with these disadvantages in life, have overcome them, and have found it necessary to vigorously challenge the undoubted grime of their previous life.<br /><br />However, I think for both pragmatic and compassionate reasons, a more tolerant approach recognising the absolute necessity and near ubiquity of human hypocrisy is called for. I feel a Taqfirist black and white absolutism abounds in the discourse around people who are "OTD" from onlookers who are both off and on. Whose Derech? Who defines "frum"? Are we not all sinners? Weberman has inspired me with an object lesson in how there can be no dissonance between a long career as a rapist and an strongly held internal identity as a frum Jew; is it so impossible to be a frum Jew and eat (discretely) at McDonalds? We may be mortified of our brethren, ashamed, aghast - but can we deny their identity? #YouAintNoJewBruv rings hollow - comforting, but not for long.<br /><br />I cannot help feeling that however well meaning the intentions, encouraging people to break with their cultures, traditions and heritage cannot add to the sum total of human happiness.Peculiar Hatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post-9658271174232162392015-12-29T21:11:12.675+00:002015-12-29T21:11:12.675+00:00I thought GG kehilla had made it clear that they w...I thought GG kehilla had made it clear that they want nothing to do with the the Union. Which Rabbi from GG is "cozying up to them"?????<br /><br />What's his motivation? Hasn't DCH, RSW, RGH etc made their views clear???YankelPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post-37317654066000267042015-12-29T20:31:17.994+00:002015-12-29T20:31:17.994+00:00Mr. Tickle
Your erudition etc. is wasted in Stamfo...Mr. Tickle<br />Your erudition etc. is wasted in Stamford Hill. Nobody here has heard of McCarthy and certainly not of Salem. I wonder how any people in Stamford Hill know what invertebrate means or what WMD is.<br />In my youth the chareidi children were known to be the most learned, educated and bright children in England. Now they are known to be stupid, ignorant and entirely unprepared for whatever the future might hold for them. 50 years of UOHC domination and what have they or us got to show for it?<br />BTW you are being rather unfair on Senator McCarthy. He was a democratically elected member of his country's government. He was reflecting the views of a sizeable chunk of the American peoples' views (But not the entertainment and media industries which were broadly controlled then as now by the liberal, and not so liberal, left). And above all, his "suspects" were interviewed in public, were allowed to have legal representation and were given the opportunity to justify themselves.<br />What happened in London when certain women wanted to testify about RCH?satamford hillernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4371357989254214618.post-33999683845366623542015-12-29T18:30:44.261+00:002015-12-29T18:30:44.261+00:00Pathetic and embarrassing behaviours yet again fro...Pathetic and embarrassing behaviours yet again from the good and great at the Union.<br /><br />Why oh why are one or two senior Golders Green Rabbonim cosying up to the Union crooks yet again??<br /><br />When will they underst and that the charred community in NW London has zero interest in having any association whatsoever with the Union in any form.<br /><br />Stay away!!!!!<br /><br /><br /><br />Yashrusnoreply@blogger.com